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Skype with
Holland 1/3/10
Bhagavan: Nice to see you
Laura.
Laura: Nice to see you
too.
I am very happy. The
first question:
My husband insults me and
I want to experience the pain. But
instead I insult him even more. I am
afraid the behavior and this anger will
come back to me manifold. How do I
receive grace to experience the pain
instead of reacting violently? You told
my husband and me we should respect each
other and that this is up to us but it
is getting worse and it seems
impossible. I act violently Bhagavan,
please bless us; to be honest I don’t
want to change. Something in me does not
want to give up the fight with him. Why
do I want this instead of happiness?
Bhagavan: You have got to
apply the systematic fashion. There are
deeper reasons for this. I will not go
into that. I would like to go to the
solution. So like Onno told a story, I
will also tell a little story. So this
evening, some four hours earlier I met a
local Indian villager, very uneducated,
who comes for our classes. This woman
told me this evening that she used to
have a lot of fights with her husband
and life was becoming really terrible.
And then she thought, well I seem to
have so much fear for this man. Why is
this? And she could not get on to that.
So, a week ago she lost the keys to her
home. The husband had gone out somewhere
and she could not enter the house and
she was terrified of the thought telling
her husband because he would immediately
beat her up. So she brought some
neighbor who broke open the lock and
kept the lock in the neighbor’s house.
And then she began to wonder what is
happening. Why are all this problems?
Every time I seem to get into some
trouble and then this man is scolding me
or beating me. Why is this happening?
Then she applied the teaching: what is
happening inside produces events
outside. And then she questions what is
happening inside and then she discovered
there is tremendous fear of him. And
this fear was constantly creating the
situations where the husband was
provoked and was behaving rudely to her.
This image was inside her. And then she
thought, I have fear. I just have fear
and this seems to invoke this behavior
in him. So the moment the husband came
she said: Look, I lost the keys. I broke
open the lock and of sheer fear of you I
hid the lock in the neighbor’s house.
The husband strangely laughed and gave
her a hug. And he said: It is fine. So
it became very very clear to her that
she was invoking that kind of behavior.
With this single incident she claims
that she completely lost fear of her
husband and for the last one week they
have had the best of times of their
lives. This happened to one who has had
no education nor great understanding but
the very simple understanding of the
teaching and very systematically
applied. So you have got to realize the
fact that you are producing this image.
You are provoking to the other and the
other is provoking you. But we don’t
have to worry about the other, we can
start with ourselves. You do it if you
realize there is profit there.
Like a good businessman.
If you do it you start to
gain.
This lady has no more
problems with her husband, at least for
the last one week and she is in great
joy and all things are very well for
her. So, she realized there is much to
be gained there and she is constantly
aware of any fear if it erupts and the
moment she is aware the fear disappears
and there seems to be no problem at all.
So what you have to do is, you have to
understand, this is called awaken up
intelligence, which we teach in level 2,
that you are creating these things.
Suppose you want to approach a lion or a
tiger in a zoo. How do you want to do
that? You turn your back to the tiger or
the lion. I know families in India and
also in western countries, they are
going to play with the lions and the
tigers. Not the ones they brought up but
simply straight away with the lions and
the tigers. How do these people do? They
have for some reasons completely lost
fear for these animals and when you lose
fear for the animal, the animal never
explodes. Ramana Maharshi in India, you
must have heard of him, he used to be
touching leopards and sometimes even
tigers they say and he would be with
cobra’s and snakes. Nobody ever harmed
him. But he used to keep people in a
distance of 15 feet from him. When they
would come across the 15 feet barrier
then the animal would strike. So all
people are asked to keep distance if
they had fear. Similarly we are
producing all these things. So you could
take a quick look at yourself and see
the correlation. What happened inside
you, before the other person was
provoked brought as misbehavior and you
see a lot of profit there. It does not
require any effort at all. You can see
if it is of any use to you. It is
producing a loss or a gain. If you can
clearly see there is nothing to gain,
then drop it. If you see there is
something to gain then cling to it. You
have to see it in terms of loss and
gain. If you see that like this village
woman then it is very very easy. You are
wasting a lot of time. You are
struggling and find it very difficult.
In fact it is not so. Go home and set
things right. If you can see profit and
loss it is done. And I help you and
bless you; write next time. That’s the
answer to the first question, we move to
the next question.
Well, the next question
Bhagavan is…
Someone asks: I do the
10-20 minutes sadhana on regular basis,
the 10 minutes to grow and 20 to
transform, on regular basis, but somehow
it looks like the growth has slowed
down, or I notice it less than before.
Do you have any suggestions on how to
keep growing and noticing it? I heard
something in another Skype-session about
49 minutes practice for every day. Can
you tell about that? Should we do
another practice or should we stay to
the 10-20 minutes sadhana?
Bhagavan: If any sadhana
goes to be painful, is not joyous enough
or not interesting, and you do not
notice any growth after some time, you
must take a break from the sadhana. It
could be a 10 day, it could be a 14 or
21 day break, and then you should again
go back to it. So what’s happening is,
sometimes when you do the sadhana
wrongly then you do not make any
progress and it becomes painful. Any
sadhana which is not joyous should be
stopped.
Sadhana must be a joy. A
painful sadhana is not going to
help you, it can in fact cause problems
to you. You must stop it immediately,
and then take it up after probably 7
days or 14 days again you should do it
again in multiples of 7; so 7, 14, 21,
28, 35, 42, you do it like that. Take
breaks and restart. Then maybe it will
be very, very different this time. Or it
could also be that this kind of sadhana
is not suiting you, in which case you
must try out some other sadhana. Not all
sadhanas suit everybody; try and find
out for yourself. That is the answer for
the second question.
Thank you Bhagavan
The next question:
This is someone who asks:
When I give blessings I sometimes have
very strange physical reactions. Lately
my heart beat turned up enormously and
it scares me. I also feel so much heat
that I sometimes have to go outside to
cool down a bit. Is this dangerous?
Should I do anything about it? There are
other blessing givers who have other big
physical reactions when they give
blessings. Should they just continue to
give blessings? Can it be harmful? Or
what should they do?
Bhagavan: There is no
danger at all and you should not stop
it. This is an indication that you will
be a very very powerful blessing giver.
All such people who exhibit such
symptoms will become amazingly powerful
blessing givers. ….
Video stopped? Are you
getting my video?...
Reaction: We lost your
video, we still hear your voice.
Bhagavan: We are getting
it back now. So, I’ll repeat the answer.
(…repetition…)
Your blessings will be
powerful or are going to become very,
very powerful.
This is very good news
indeed that there are such people out
there. And there are people in India
like this and their deeksha’s are
amazingly powerful. So go ahead and give
deeksha’s.
L: Okay, thank you,
that’s good news. Can we ask one more
question?
When I listen to the news
I hear about climate changes, the
financial crisis, about the wars in the
world. I sometimes get very scared. I
feel like not wanting to know all the
details of such drama in the world,
because they make me feel so sad and
helpless. Can you tell something about
how we should deal with this? Is it good
to follow the news carefully, although
it makes me worried, or should I do
anything with my worries or can I deal
with it in another constructive way?
Bhagavan:
If you are scared then
you should not listen to that news. On
the other hand, if it produces concern
in you and you feel a sense of
helplessness then you must listen to
that news. That very concern, that very
sense of helplessness is your
contribution. If millions of people all
over the world feel concern and feel
helpless about the situation then the
Divine will certainly intervene and act.
Such people should not miss out the
news. They should listen and even
experience suffering, pain and agony at
what is going on. And you are the silent
prayer, to the Universe or to the Divine
or whatever is your concept. And
certainly, the prayers of these millions
of people will definitely be answered.
But on the other hand, if you are going
to be scared then the best thing you can
do is just switch off the news. That is
the answer for the third question.
Laura: Thank you very
much.
Bhagavan: So now shall
we move into meditation?
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